Twin Cities Drum Collective

Twin Cities Drum Collective is a retail drum shop and a custom drum manufacturer located in South Saint Paul, Minnesota.

The Great Snare Drum Throw Off Throw Down!

Custom drum builders obviously love to put the best available hardware on their drums, and when it comes to snare drums, there is an obvious focus on the throw off (I’m old fashioned and sometimes still call it a snare strainer).  

This blog will talk about the great throw off debate that has happened in our Minnesota drum shop, and of course has happened in custom drum companies across the country.  For the sake of this blog, we will focus on throw offs primarily used by small to mid-sized custom drum builders who have not designed their own.  Obviously most major drum companies like Drum Workshop and Ludwig have their game down in this department, although some major companies are lacking (Gretsch, I’m talking to you!).  Nonetheless, most custom drum builders are not sourcing from the major drum companies, so we’ll leave them out. 

 

Trick Multi-Step Throw Off

First, let’s talk about the best of the best out there.  To many drum builders, the Trick multi-step throw off is the cream of the crop.  The Trick throw off is machined from aluminum, is available in several finishes, and has flawless operation.  You will find that perhaps a majority of custom drum builder’s adorn their snares with the Trick.  

So what’s the downside?  Well, the first is cost.  A item this thoughtfully designed and machined comes with a price that will add about $60 to the cost of the drum, if the builder simply puts it on at his or her cost (selling at cost is a terrible way to stay in business)!  In fairness, the expense is 100% justifiable to some (see below), and I have to say that it’s a pet peeve when people want something exceptional at a low, low cost. The other downside is its bulk that can make getting your snare drum into the case or bag a bit of a hassle.  The key word here is a “bit”.  If you love the Trick, it really won’t matter much to you.  Last, a person could make the case that the Trick is over-engineered, a critique that might reflect a bit of envy.

 

Dunnet R4C Throw Off

Another frontrunner in the throw off department is the Dunnet R4C.  Like the Trick, this throw off has perfect operation, and it unlike others on the market, it swivels to accommodate both right and left handed drummers, and it has a quick release feature to change heads without losing your settings.  Cool. 

I also think this throw-off is a clear winner in the looks department, with a design that would compliment most any snare drum style and finish.

The downside with this throw off is the same with the Trick, the cost.  However, the design and execution makes no compromises, so like the Trick, the cost might be warranted to some.

 

Inde Strainer / Throw Off

On the up and coming list is the Inde throw-off, which operates similarly to the Ludwig P-85.  Well-conceived with smooth operation an a reasonable cost, I see this one popping up more and more. 

In the looks department, it is attractive but not quite generic enough to work esthetically on all snare drums.  To be fair though, it was designed to be on Inde drums, which look outstanding, and not necessarily to be put on everyone’s snare drum. 

As a replacement throw off, the Inde is a top contender with an adjustable mounting option to line up to existing holes.

 

So what do we use at Twin Cities Drum Collective?  What you want of course! 

 

That said, our stock choice is the Gibraltar Deluxe Classic, which has a Ludwig P-85 style of operation that is smooth and efficient.  Further, it is relatively compact, and it looks great at a reasonable cost, literally taking thirty to fifty dollars of the price of the snare drum depending on the choice of throw off.  

Now it comes down to thishow often do you use your throw-off? 

In my punk band Dillinger Four, I have literally never turned off my snares in 25 years!  I have had snares with the Trick throw-off, which was basically an exceptional yet dormant feature on my drum.  If you rarely use the throw-off, save your money so long as your snare has a well-made one on it.  

However, if you use your throw-off often, and you have a preference, then let’s hook you up with what you want!  That’s the very definition of custom…making personal choices about the details that matter to you. 

Know that at the Collective, we are looking out for both your preferences and your pocketbook!

Welcome to the Twin Cities Drum Collective

Welcome to the first Twin Cities Drum Collective Blog!  In our regular blog we will be talking about custom drums, product reviews, drumming resources, the ups and downs of running a drum shop, and of course any and all topics related to custom drum building and drum repairs.  Additionally, we hope to feature the occasional interview with leading drummers in the Minneapolis and Saint Paul area and beyond Minnesota.

It’s only fitting in this first blog to discuss the (several) missions of TCDC, and how we are similar to, and different from, other drum shops and companies.  

First, Twin Cities Drum Collective is similar to other drum shops in that we are a retail store that carries major brands of drums, cymbals, and accessories.  Major drum companies we carry include Drum Workshop (DW), Gretsch, Ludwig, PDP among others, and we carry cymbals by the big three, Paiste, Sabian, and Zildjian while also stocking Bosphorus, Dream, and Meinl.  In short, we can order most major brands of drums and cymbals.  Say you want a set of Paiste 2002s, well just email or call us and we’ll get what you want in store!  Same with hardware…we stock a nice selection of DW and Gibraltar, but if you want something special, we can likely get it for you.

We then round out our inventory with Aquarian and Remo drumheads (and yes, we can order Evans!) and Los Cabos, Vater, and Vic Firth sticks.  If you’re into a particular size or another brand like Promark or Regal Tip…let us know and we’ll get you covered!  

We also stock all the “back shelf” stuff you need from felts and washers, to snares, and hardware bits and pieces.   Oh, and we should mention that we carry excellent case, bag, and accessories brands like SKB, Impact, and Tackle.   

So how is Twin Cities Drum Collective different?

First, we offer full service repair and and reconditioning right here in our South Saint Paul shop.  Cracked Vistalites?  We fix 'em.  Trouble tuning drums?  We’ll cut you new bearing edges, and you’ll discover you do know how to tune drums. Tired, worn, or damaged wrap?  Then let us rewrap your set.  We are one of the few drum shops in the Minneapolis and St. Paul area set up to assist you with these services.

In addition to drum service and repair, we have our custom drum lines which are the heart and soul of Twin Cities Drum Collective and that set us apart from the pack.  When Kelly and I conceived of doing our own custom drum line it quickly became apparent that we had similar and different visions related to looks, branding, and building philosophies…like most drummers do!  So instead of creating just one custom drum line, we quickly decided that we would not limit ourselves and would embark on creating three custom drum lines under the umbrella of the Collective.  

Our Lines

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Kelly’s vision was Twin Cities Drum Company (TCDrumCO), and after over 10 years building custom drums, he already had a lug design and a particular bearing edge picked out. 

Machined from aluminum and given a brushed finish in the shop, Kelly’s lug is different from anything else on the market, a true differentiator as they say in the industry.  The feedback has been affirming, drummers love the look of it! 

Kelly gives TCDrumCo a roundover into 45 degree bearing edge.  This edge fits the contour of drumheads and gives a perfect balance of warmth, attack, and sustain

The TCDrumCO badge is laser-cut into maple, and again, has a distinctive look among custom drums.


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Lane’s vision was 651Drums, a brand defined by its intersection between form and function.  The lugs on 651Drums are also machined from aluminum and are given a high polish right here in South St. Paul, Minnesota.  This polish leaves the lugs looking like chrome without an added chemical process and with nothing to fail down the road. 

651Drums feature the Dual 45 Bearing Edge, designed for a wide tuning range, bright attack, and long sustain.  Then, the badge is acid etched into chrome. 

The end result is a drummer’s drum that spans musical styles from jazz to punk.


Then there is Modern Vintage Drums (MV Drums).  These drums start with Okoume/Poplar/Okoume shells.  What is Okoume you ask?  A sustainable wood with the same look and sound qualities of Mahogany. 

These drums are given the classic roundover bearing edge for that warm, vintage tone and finished off with beavertail lugs and the art deco inspired MV Drums Badge. 

For fans of the look and sound of vintage drums, Modern Vintage Drums are your thing.  Check em’ out.


Full Service...and grilling!

Last but not least, we offer expertise and service that you will not find in other music stores and drum shops.  This is we what we do, so if you need advise, lessons (we have great instructors), or simply want to support a Minnesota drum company run by people with a passion for drumsets, then we are your shop. 

Drop in anytime, and stay connected to our social media for information on our weekly patio grill-outs called “Beats and Brats” (held on Wednesdays until the snow flies and maybe beyond…we do live in Minnesota!), or for our other events and gatherings held both at our South Saint Paul store and at select venues in Minneapolis.

At TCDC, we like to say that everything we do is “by drummers, for drummers!”  We'll see you around!


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Visit our shop

Twin Cities Drum Collective
234 Concord Exchange South
South Saint Paul, MN 55075

651-455-4040

Store Hours:
Wednesday – Saturday
12pm to 8pm


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Major brands we carry: Drum Workshop (DW), Gretsch, Ludwig, Rogers, Dream, Meinl, Sabian, Zildjian and more!